[10:04] Jimony: Organisation meeting of The Defiant, June 7
[10:04] Coprocessor: caps please
[10:04] Dfnt: [Guest] Firalithe: Seconded
[10:04] Jimony: No caps today
[10:04] Coprocessor: (and i think this is the alleged 105th meeting of the defiant)
[10:05] Dfnt: Ndure has joined the Guestchannel.
[10:05] Jimony: Topics will be:
[10:05] Jimony: - Leileena
[10:05] Jimony: - Ranks
[10:05] Jimony: - Recruitment
[10:05] Jimony: - Org bot
[10:05] Jimony: - Towers
[10:06] Jimony: - Open floor
[10:06] Jimony: Topic: Leileena
[10:06] Jimony: Hi, this is me, yes, I'm back
[10:07] Coprocessor: hey-o
[10:07] Jimony: I was given the rank of Faithkeeper and was asked to come back to this org to help building up.
[10:07] Jimony: So I made this toon, monday I belive, to rejoin you.
[10:08] Jimony: Any questions?
[10:08] Keepthepeace: hehe im lvl 27 and soloed a lvl 40
[10:08] Dfnt: Gunza logged off
[10:08] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: What's the reasoning behind the name?
[10:08] Jimony: Random name generator
[10:08] Coprocessor: jiminy christmas
[10:08] Coprocessor: haha i figured as much
[10:08] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: hehe
[10:08] Coprocessor: how conveeeenient
[10:08] Rellikj: !online
[10:08] Dfnt: 13 members are online ¤ [link]Click here[/link]
[10:09] Jimony: Most of my toons got from there
[10:09] Jimony: Anything else?
[10:09] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: Don't you find jim a bit of a manly name?
[10:09] Jimony: Maybe I am abit manly
[10:09] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp:
[10:10] Jimony: Anyways, moving on, think this is pretty clear just wanted to inform y'all
[10:10] Coprocessor: THIS IS A TOPIC ABOUT LEILEENA SO ANY QUESTION YOU WANT TO ASK HER WHATSOEVER IS A-OK
[10:10] Dwall: hi there
[10:10] Jimony: I said no caps today....
[10:10] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: what's your favourite colour?
[10:10] Rellikj: hi Dwall
[10:11] Jimony: Next topic: Ranks
[10:11] [Buddy] Forver logged on
[10:11] Dfnt: Myrlynus "Forver" Ambrosius (Level 162/10 - , Male Nano Nano-Technician, President of The Defiant) logged on.
[10:11] Jimony: I would like to note that we have alot of weird ranking going on where it seems the number of ranks one has depends on how many times it has come across knight.
[10:11] Dwall: hi Forver wellcome
[10:11] Rellikj: Hi Prez
[10:12] Coprocessor: everyone and their mother
[10:12] Jimony: I think we could use ranks as a tool to improve the org relationships
[10:12] Coprocessor: there is a big hassle with reversing the procedure too
[10:13] Jimony: Well there is a way to do so.
[10:14] Jimony: Anyway, if there was more meaning given to a rank, people would actually be able to be proud of their ranks, and work hard to deserve them.
[10:14] Jimony: Also it gives the new members some idea of who to turn to on any problems, and who is just a regular member.
[10:14] Jimony: Hmm, You okay down there Forver?
[10:14] Coprocessor: i don't agree with any of that but it's the defiant way (in theory, not practice, but most of the people knight raises are pretty decent people i think)
[10:15] Forver: Can't beleive I fell off..
[10:15] Jimony: You don't agree with what, as it is now or as suggested?
[10:16] Coprocessor: okay the way you suggest is essentially the ideal that we've always had, just not been able to implement properly
[10:16] Jimony: *nods*
[10:16] Forver: In my opinion, many have acheived rank far to fast and others seem to be left behind
[10:16] Coprocessor: my thought is just that people should receive advances based on their technical ability, i guess how to say it
[10:16] Jimony: Yes, and yes
[10:17] Forver: I want to re-evaluate each person and see where they fit.
[10:17] Jimony: It will take some work to get it straigthened out the way ranks were orriginally intended, but I think it will be worth the efford.
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[10:18] Forver: Jimony has suggested resetting the org type so as to reset all ranks, but I think that is a bit extreme.
[10:18] Coprocessor: it doesn't bother me really to reset them
[10:18] Forver: But may be a viable solution
[10:19] Jimony: *nods* Though with currently fast recruitment there are more people comming in then that you can evaluate.
[10:19] Forver: Yes, just don't promote to SC without chatting with me first.
[10:19] Jimony: Allright
[10:20] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: yeah, Scythe got ninja'd to SC when i logged on for 40seconds or so
[10:20] Forver: We are doing great with the recruiting by-the-way.
[10:20] Jimony: I say we post something on this in the org bot !news so they know what's happening if they are getting promoted/demoted or are refused of a higher rank.
[10:20] Jimony: They being the members.
[10:21] Coprocessor: my ideas about rank are against an arbitrary system and simply one that facilitates the needs of an org for stuff like recruitment
[10:21] Forver: Yes, I want to see a policy statement that everyone can read.
[10:21] Jimony: And make sure all Generals know not to promote to SC whitout the permission of President/Senior staff
[10:22] Forver: We tend to get top heavy.
[10:22] Jimony: Aye
[10:22] Jimony: Theres nothing wrong with a happy unit member.
[10:22] Coprocessor: it doesn't bother me though and i don't see any major problem
[10:22] Jimony: I know Proc, you like to relativate things
[10:22] Coprocessor: so i can't really agree with any of what you both are saying now
[10:23] Coprocessor: i think the system works the way it is
[10:23] Dfnt: Slynn (Lvl 60/Soldier/Equilizers/Clan) attacked the Omni organization Natas´s tower in Aegean(1253x2740, HUGEMAP #1) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:23] Forver: Understood.
[10:23] Coprocessor: certainly good judgement needs to me made in promoting, but i haven't even noticed any problems
[10:23] Jimony: Well, let's just try it out and see how it works?
[10:24] Jimony: I have noticed a general who was cursing and calling names to other members being elitish all the time.
[10:24] Jimony: Now that's not something I would like to see.
[10:25] Coprocessor: to handle that, demote him (though i think it's not possible)
[10:25] Coprocessor: in that situation demoting someone really end in them probably leaving or being kicked totally later
[10:25] Jimony: Only the president can demote or kick such people, which is why people shouldn't be high ranked if we're not sure they won't make any trouble.
[10:26] Coprocessor: well i don't disagree with that
[10:26] Forver: OK
[10:26] Jimony: Since in those rare cases it's required to kick someone, mostly people are unable to kick becouse they're too high ranked.
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[10:26] Rellikj: hi Q
[10:26] Forver: Let's just be alert and see what we can see.
[10:26] Dfnt: [Guest] Qvasa: hi
[10:26] Jimony: Okay
[10:27] Dwall: Hi Qvasa
[10:27] Coprocessor: oh okay that is a very good point actually jimony
[10:27] Forver: Hello Q
[10:27] Dfnt: [Guest] Qvasa: hey
[10:27] Jimony: So: a small note regarding to what we are doing and for generals not to promote people to the rank of SC before talking to Forver.
[10:28] Dfnt: [Guest] Nanomagos: mochasm!
[10:28] Coprocessor: haha
[10:28] Jimony: And the option of changing goverment to re-work all ranks will stay public discussion and we shal get back to that at a later point.
[10:28] Jimony: Any questions?
[10:28] Coprocessor: okay by "changing government" you mean resetting ranks?
[10:29] Dfnt: [Guest] Firalithe: You still haven't answered my first on the leileena topic.
[10:29] Coprocessor: not the actual government system
[10:29] Coprocessor: yeah what's your favourite colours?
[10:29] Dwall:
[10:29] Dfnt: Qvasa left the Guestchannel.
[10:29] Forver: LOL
[10:29] Jimony: Yes, a change in govermentform will reset all ranks, so say you change from Republic to Feudalism and back to Republic again, you ahve the same governingform but all members are applicant exept for the president.
[10:30] Dfnt: [Guest] Firalithe: not the reply i was looking for!
[10:30] Jimony: My favorite colours are Purple and Red.
[10:30] Dfnt: [Guest] Firalithe: What about plum?
[10:30] Jimony: Anything else?
[10:30] Coprocessor: oh okay i was confused about the process to reset ranks, alright
[10:30] Jimony: Next topic: Recruitment
[10:31] Jimony: There has been a nice improvement of numbers lately, there is however one thing I'm dissapointed about.
[10:31] Jimony: At the last meeting I attended, I proposed, and there was aggreed upon, listing every new recruit on the forums so we know who to give priority to
[10:32] Dfnt: Slynn (Lvl 60/Soldier/Equilizers/Clan) attacked the Neutral organization Pillanatnyi Elmezavar´s tower in Aegean(994x2438, HUGEMAP #3) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:32] Jimony: (a decent ranking system would also help here)
[10:32] [Buddy] Knight236 logged on
[10:32] Dfnt: The "Knight236" Faithkeeper (Level 176/8 - , Neuter Atrox Enforcer, General of The Defiant) logged on.
[10:32] Dfnt: [Guest] Firalithe: allo knight
[10:32] Jimony: Now, none of these people actually listed their recruits on the forums...
[10:32] Rellikj: Hi Founder
[10:32] Dwall: Hi Knight wellcome
[10:33] Knight236: greeting mighty ones
[10:33] Jimony: G'day knight, you comming to the roof?
[10:34] Forver: Greetings Founder, Blessed Be.
[10:34] Jimony: So, are we putting trough with listing new recruits, or are we going to drop it?
[10:34] Jimony: Becouse the only one posted in that topic is me, and I didn't even recruit anyone myself.
[10:34] Knight236: ty prez
[10:34] Coprocessor: i don't know, it is a cumbersome process surely compared to other orgs
[10:35] Coprocessor: maybe if can make it somehow easier, i notice from statistics most players don't actually log in to the website
[10:35] Knight236: and faithkeeps /generals /commander an defiant
[10:35] Dwall: very sorry guys need to go for 1 houer plz excuse me
[10:35] Coprocessor: c-ya dwall, thanks for showing up
[10:35] Rellikj: c ya Dwall
[10:35] Dwall: wish you a grat day bye
[10:36] Coprocessor: i have an idea
[10:36] Coprocessor: the news section of the bot i discovered sucks
[10:36] Jimony: Well, I don't require members to list on the forums, just I require the recruiters to list their recruits on the forums, so I know who to teach next.
[10:36] Dfnt: Dwall logged off
[10:36] Coprocessor: i could open it up and allow anyone to post most anything, including recruits
[10:36] Jimony: Becouse right now I'm randomly picking people out of the newbie pile...
[10:37] Coprocessor: okay but the recruiters also then have to log into the forums
[10:37] Forver: That sounds good Z
[10:37] Jimony: *nods*
[10:37] Coprocessor: i will see if it's possible to do that with the news, the security already sucked so
[10:37] Jimony: They would have, but is it realy that much to ask for one to type a name into the forums? It seems it is though...
[10:37] Coprocessor: it is leileena apparently
[10:38] Jimony: The news would work, but can't be edited like a forum post
[10:38] Coprocessor: people have to first log-in then create posts, the website is probably something most don't even think about
[10:38] Coprocessor: if they do, they visit it without logging in
[10:38] Coprocessor: this seems fine to me though
[10:38] Jimony: Aye
[10:38] Knight236: sorry so quite, lost site in lft eye
[10:39] Knight236: will just watch
[10:39] Jimony: But I know for one, that knight does login to the forums quite frequently, and that he also recruited a whole bunch of people this week.
[10:39] Jimony: Yet, no recruits where signed up...
[10:39] Dfnt: Hirud (Lvl 76/Trader/LMAA/Omni) attacked the Clan organization Equilizers´s tower in Pleasant Meadows(585x2491, HUGEMAP #3) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:39] Dfnt: Muckling (Lvl 77/Trader/Insanity (OTC)/Omni) attacked the Clan organization Equilizers´s tower in Pleasant Meadows(585x2491, HUGEMAP #3) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:39] Dfnt: Xploitz (Lvl 94/Trader/Slow Motion/Omni) attacked the Clan organization Equilizers´s tower in Pleasant Meadows(585x2491, HUGEMAP #3) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:39] Forver: He needs a secretary
[10:39] Jimony: Yeh well I'm sick of being his secretary
[10:40] Coprocessor: it just would take some time to get used to probably
[10:40] Dfnt: Qvasa has joined the Guestchannel.
[10:40] Jimony: Okay... so what are we going to do?
[10:40] Dfnt: Gridsonic has joined the Guestchannel.
[10:40] Coprocessor: okay this is a game so don't spend your time doing things you don't want and have fun
[10:41] Coprocessor: okay well i try to work on opening the news section
[10:41] Jimony: *nods* but if you can't take the responcibility of posting a single name somewhere, should you take the responcibility in recruiting and teaching new players?
[10:41] Coprocessor: then anyone can edit it, it's not secure @ all
[10:42] Coprocessor: well, i don't agree with the whole idea @ all
[10:42] Jimony: Okay, so we'll try posting names in news or are we going to let this all go completely?
[10:42] Coprocessor: this is not something i care to devote time to myself, so if people want it to work they'll have to make it work
[10:43] Dfnt: Keepthepeace logged off
[10:43] Knight236: i can try to answer this, after org was fracmented-----i went recuting--i tired my best to tell them all i know and goto web site
[10:43] Coprocessor: i will work on the news thing if everyone thinks that we should try that
[10:43] Jimony: Knight, if your not fit to recruit then by all means let others recruit.
[10:43] Jimony: Quality over quantity
[10:44] Coprocessor: borgs do pretty good with quantity!
[10:44] Dfnt: Deathsown (Lvl 85/Enforcer/ShadowGuard/Omni) attacked the Clan organization Equilizers´s tower in Pleasant Meadows(585x2491, HUGEMAP #3) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:44] Knight236: we make quality out the quanity
[10:44] Rellikj: I dont recruit often - dont stop me teachin g & running peeps a good deal of the time
[10:44] Coprocessor: and then just disable the malfunctioning drones
[10:44] Jimony: We're not borgs
[10:44] Coprocessor: but we could be!
[10:44] Coprocessor: next week i will lay out a plan on our cyborg operations
[10:45] Coprocessor: but for this week let's just go with what we have for now
[10:45] Forver: Cool
[10:45] Jimony: Aight if we can't get a decent answer on this I'll cut it, zombie you can remove the forum post.
[10:45] [Buddy] Pooopshooter logged on
[10:45] Dfnt: "Pooopshooter" (Level 125/8 - , Female Solitus Fixer, General of The Defiant) logged on.
[10:45] Knight236: for gods sake someone answer leil
[10:45] Forver: Can I ask a question Z?
[10:45] Jimony: This does however mean I don't know who's new, requires training or has been waiting on training for a couple of months.
[10:45] Rellikj: wb Poooop
[10:45] Coprocessor: okay leileena, i won't play silly games with anyone here so if you say that, you better mean it
[10:45] Coprocessor: sure forver
[10:46] Forver: Does the bot list members by date added?
[10:46] Knight236: wb general
[10:46] Pooopshooter: !whois epek
[10:46] Dfnt: "Epek" (Level 196/8 - Intermediate, Female Solitus Doctor, Clan, Unit Member of House Maadiah) ¤ [link]click for more options[/link]
[10:46] Jimony: So i'll teach my own recruits, but you can't expect much more then that.
[10:46] Coprocessor: okay i think we can just agree to work on the news section thing to make this easier for players
[10:46] Dfnt: Qvasa left the Guestchannel.
[10:46] Coprocessor: oh hmm forver
[10:47] Coprocessor: the problem is this is a new iteration of the bot so the last login ate won't be accurate
[10:47] Coprocessor: *date
[10:47] Knight236: !news
[10:47] Dfnt: No News recorded yet.
[10:47] Dfnt:
[10:47] Coprocessor: to remove old members i simply looked them up with auno
[10:47] Forver: OK
[10:47] Coprocessor: but i did that not too long ago
[10:47] Dfnt: Qvasa has joined the Guestchannel.
[10:47] Jimony: Allright, so we'll try this with the !news command
[10:48] Coprocessor: if we reset the ranks auno will reflect that
[10:48] Knight236: wb q
[10:48] Forver: Yes
[10:48] Jimony: Let me know when permissions are set zombie.
[10:48] Dfnt: [Guest] Qvasa: ty
[10:48] Coprocessor: and also the bot's org history
[10:48] Dfnt: [Guest] Nanomagos: mochams!
[10:48] Dfnt: Ghanimapl logged off
[10:48] Coprocessor: so it could be helpful to do this to prepare for 6 moths to a year from now
[10:48] Knight236: wb nano
[10:48] Coprocessor: (resetting org ranks)
[10:48] Dfnt: [Guest] Qvasa: where you at Nano?
[10:49] Forver: Good
[10:49] Jimony: Anything else on this topic?
[10:49] Coprocessor: let's reset ranks right now!!!
[10:49] Jimony: Okay I'm in!
[10:49] Jimony: but... we just said public discussion till atleast next week
[10:49] Knight236: oh boy---------------
[10:49] Coprocessor: no don't let knight talk about it, just do it!
[10:49] Pooopshooter: lol
[10:49] Coprocessor: shh knight
[10:49] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: gogogogo!
[10:50] Pooopshooter: you all are silly! O_O
[10:50] Knight236: only forv can
[10:50] Jimony: Forver?
[10:50] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: Do it forv!
[10:50] Dfnt: [Guest] Qvasa: ./me waits for the sound of the shit hitting the fan
[10:50] Coprocessor: haha
[10:50] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: *Pressure*
[10:50] Rellikj: hehe
[10:50] Knight236: and u better pray his daughter is there
[10:50] Forver: LOL
[10:50] Knight236: thats alot of typing
[10:51] Jimony: So?
[10:51] Forver: I will wait as we said.
[10:51] Rellikj: call me the roadsweeper -wont change my gameplay
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[10:51] Jimony: Okay
[10:51] Jimony: We'll wait
[10:51] Coprocessor: wah
[10:51] Jimony: Next topic: org bot
[10:51] Rellikj: still a Defiant
[10:52] Jimony: I don't know if zombie fixed it or FC fixed it, but bot is updating properly again.
[10:52] Coprocessor: !whois coprocessor
[10:52] Dfnt: "Coprocessor" (Level 151/0 - None, Male Nano Agent, Neutral, Squad Commander of The Defiant) ¤ [link]click for more options[/link]
[10:52] Coprocessor: okay yes
[10:52] Jimony: It listens to me =D
[10:52] Coprocessor: i didn't do anything but pretend i did
[10:52] Jimony: Okay, all thank zombie for pretending to fix it!
[10:52] Knight236: lmao z
[10:53] Rellikj: well done Z claps
[10:53] Coprocessor: least i could do (really)
[10:53] Jimony:
[10:53] Knight236: lol
[10:53] Jimony: The last topic: Towers
[10:54] Jimony: The tower policy is one of very few, if not the only, org guideline.
[10:54] Dfnt: Firalithe left the Guestchannel.
[10:54] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: Zombie!
[10:54] Jimony: So let's make sure people stick to it.
[10:54] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: Check out the new hat!
[10:54] Knight236: agreed
[10:54] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: I look like a nanomage
[10:55] Jimony: That will be all then
[10:55] Jimony: Open floor
[10:55] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: Nobody can go in the centre cos we're all trapped by lag haha
[10:55] Coprocessor: okay hey fixinmylazor post some cool screenshots on the forum
[10:55] Jimony: Oh I'd like to suggest: Bi-Montly meetings, becouse we seem to be repeating now :S
[10:56] Coprocessor: and me and leileena also followed suit, so go check it out and post some of your own
[10:56] Dfnt: Jambasparabo (Lvl 60/Keeper/Grisu - The Little Dragons/Omni) attacked the Clan organization Project Transfer´s tower in Galway County(2166x2694, HUGEMAP #1) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[10:56] Jimony: Oh yes that's a very nice post, fun indeed
[10:56] Knight236: marry me and i will do bi weekly
[10:56] Jimony: Err, yes i meant bi-weekly
[10:56] Jimony: Bi-montly would be abit big step :S
[10:57] Jimony: Just think about that for a while, maybe we can talk about it tomorrow
[10:57] Rellikj: my main comp is kaput so next week or so my alts wont be of much use till new comp arrives - so if I turn down helping then you know why
[10:57] Jimony: err, next week*
[10:57] Dfnt: [Guest] Nanomagos: bye
[10:57] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: bye magos
[10:57] Jimony: Oki
[10:57] Jimony: Bye magos
[10:57] Knight236: i thinking floor---must get heather up
[10:57] Jimony: Anything else for open floor?
[10:57] Dfnt: Nanomagos left the Guestchannel.
[10:58] Knight236: knight down
[10:58] Jimony: Nothing?
[10:58] Rellikj: just towers - get new 2 put up
[10:58] Jimony: Okay
[10:58] Jimony: Then the meeting is now closed!
