[10:05] Knight236: I Am THE KNIGHT,FAITHKEEPER ,FOUNDER OF THE MIGHTY DEFIANT,GREETINGS , THIS IS THE 107TH SUNDAY MEETING , OF THOSE WHO SAY IN THERE HEARTS--I AM A BIT DEFIANT.SUN JUNE 21
[10:06] Zombieranger: (happy father's day)
[10:06] Jimony: (=D)
[10:06] Knight236:
[10:06] Dfnt: Forver logged off
[10:06] Knight236: AS ALWAYS WE TAKE A MOMENT TO GIVE THANKS(YOU MAY THANK WHOEVER U WISH) LORD TY YOU ROCK.GRANT US THE WISDOM TO TEACH AND LEAD---THE STRENGH TO KICK ASS AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF FORGIVENESS.PLEASE WATCH OVER ANY OF OUR FRIENDS OR FOES WHO ARE SICK OR DOWNTRODDEN.TY LORD==AMEN
[10:06] Jimony: amen
[10:06] Dfnt: Knight236 your timer has gone off
[10:07] Heatherstone: amen
[10:07] Knight236: amen
[10:07] Knight236: TOPIC "WHY WE LOST SITE 1 AND THEN GOT IT BACK" YALL BETTER THANK LEIL AND ZOMBIE AND ALL WHO HELPED, I HAVE BEEN WARNING OF THIS ALL WEEK--DID U LISTEN-----NO.THATS OUR GD DIRT DEFIANT-DONT LET ANYONE TAKE IT. WHEN WE SAY PLANT TOWERS , AM NOT MAKING THE SHIT UP,ORG EVEN PAYS FOR THE TOWERS----EESH
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[10:07] Dfnt: Myrlynus "Forver" Ambrosius (Level 162/10 - Fair, Male Nano Nano-Technician, President of The Defiant) logged on. - {INCOMING TRANSMISSION FROM STARFLEET...........THE PRESIDENT HAS BEAMED ABOARD.......} GREETINGS DEFIANT ONES,,,,STATUS REPORT !!!
[10:08] Knight236: wb prez
[10:08] Zombieranger: hey in this instance i don't think more towers would have saved us
[10:08] Knight236: i turn this meeting over to leil
[10:08] Jimony: yes, infact i have some topics on that
[10:08] Zombieranger: what happened was they abandoned the site to give it to eater of days and go defend their own site
[10:08] Jimony: but knight wanted his dose of caps first
[10:08] Enphraam: Zieher died twice trying to defend
[10:09] Jimony: Okay, Knight wanted this meeting mandatory becouse some important topics are to be handled and we'd like everyone's input.
[10:09] Zombieranger: yes, also i hope i get these names right.. kalandos.. extrama.. and another omni from the noid helped us, also stormman
[10:09] Jimony: Todays agenda will be:
[10:09] Jimony: - Towers
[10:09] Jimony: - Knight and Faithkeepers
[10:10] Jimony: - Bi-Weekly Meetings
[10:10] Jimony: - Ranks
[10:10] Jimony: - Org City
[10:10] Jimony: - Open Floor
[10:10] Knight236: an ac -dc
[10:10] Jimony: This will whitout a doubt be something people will want to speak alot about, but let´s try to keep it short
[10:10] Jimony: Topic: Towers
[10:11] Zombieranger: okay to continue on about towers, the extra towers usually do help us buy time
[10:11] Zombieranger: but in this instance it just delayed the inevitable because they had so many attackers
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[10:11] Jimony: Well, we still have both sites, think we're lucky by that
[10:11] Knight236: dont look at me faithkeepers been telling org all week
[10:12] Zombieranger: okay i wouldn't be surprised if we get into a bigger attack later this week
[10:12] Jimony: we lost site 1 and then took it back again... was a pretty nasty fight
[10:12] Zombieranger: also lucky not to also lose site in VW so yeah i think we are lucky today
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[10:12] Jimony: So we now still have this field, but it has no towers at all atm. Something that came to mind out there is SAM batteries are extremely hard to take down. They may not do damage to players, but they have alot of HP and a good damage shield.
[10:13] Jimony: If we could fill up the field with as much SAM batteries as possible, we would get towers that will slow down attackers significantly and give 10% reflect on the CT, so they can't kill the CT whitout bothering for the towers either.
[10:13] Jimony: I'd like the org's feedback on this tactic, it will mean we won't get asmuch benefits from personal towers, but is possibly much more effective.
[10:13] Zombieranger: yes mechs can take those sam batteries out but it does require them to get in mechs
[10:14] Jimony: players can take them out aswell, but that takes a long time
[10:14] Heatherstone: I vote for Sam towers
[10:14] Knight236: ya mechs have np with sams
[10:14] Jimony: we'll still have conductors, as conductors and SAM's "stack"
[10:15] Zombieranger: sounds good to me!
[10:15] Enphraam: can a lvl 30 equip a rocket launher?
[10:15] Jimony: but mechs take those out just as easy, this will just be a primary defence against froob attackers and people who don't know about the mech advantage
[10:15] Zombieranger: and sam batteries look cool
[10:15] Knight236: so do i in dreadlocks and shades
[10:15] Ghanimapl: even 100 sam towers wont help if we cant organize ourself to block attack and make revenge, its not the case of turrets but us
[10:16] Jimony: that's correct
[10:16] Zombieranger: okay this is true but we just don't have the numbers or power to defend against 4 players
[10:16] Jimony: this is mainly about towers, as we have been about twinks over and over again
[10:16] Ghanimapl: well its tragic...
[10:16] Jimony: if you ahve time, by all means make a twink
[10:17] Zombieranger: people are not always on or some don't have a character to help with
[10:17] Enphraam: the only reason i asked is because of the ablity to take out mechs
[10:17] Jimony: You could check the LE stores in towershop Enph, I think they come in different QL's
[10:17] Enphraam: rockets launchers are getting a boost next update
[10:17] Ghanimapl: why do we bother with ql20-30 field, why dont be abandon it and try to made other field stronger, or make ql100 field instead
[10:17] Knight236: i think this is where networking is very important---------the more friends we got--the more we help------might be whats saves our ass
[10:17] Zombieranger: what i'd really like is for everyone that wants to have characters to defend with and those players could organize into a team just as if were going to kill aztur or whatever else
[10:18] Jimony: Ghanima, we've been over that before too, but we simply don't have the manpower to defend a ql 100 site
[10:18] Zombieranger: the higher level sites very hard to keep
[10:18] Knight236: its the range gandi-------i dont think we can hol a lvl 100 site
[10:19] Zombieranger: we could try and it could be exciting but we would likely fail
[10:19] Jimony: if we lose a towerfield at lvl 20, we certainly can't keep a lvl 100, that's most active range of clans atm who took all TL3/4 neut fields over night pretty much
[10:19] Enphraam: site 1 has histroy, defiant has had it for as lond as i can remember
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[10:19] Knight236: wb yuna
[10:19] Dfnt: [Guest] Yunaizumiki: heya wes
[10:20] Knight236:
[10:20] Jimony: So this is about the little advantage we can get from replacing turrets by SAM's, do we go for it?
[10:20] Heatherstone: I vote yes
[10:20] Knight236: sounds good 2 me
[10:20] Ghanimapl: what about turrets in VW, all mine are there
[10:20] Jimony: well if VW isn't destroyed we won't have to worry about rebuilding it :F
[10:20] Zombieranger: hey it's fine, keep those there
[10:21] Knight236: ok vw has prioty over galway------------
[10:21] Jimony: I would just leave VW as it is and see how our galway site turns out with SAM's, sort of an expiriment
[10:21] Ghanimapl: kk i will log to defiants all my toons for more turrets, about 10 more we would build, but in VW or in Lunder Hills?
[10:21] Enphraam: sounds like a good idea
[10:21] Zombieranger: okay just if not too busy ghani, thanks
[10:21] Jimony: higher level toons can only place 1 sam, so the rest can go in VW
[10:21] Ghanimapl: so first of all LUnder Hills?
[10:22] Zombieranger: yeah lunder hills just have like 5 towers now
[10:22] Jimony: we'll fill that first yes
[10:22] Ghanimapl: kk knight be ready that some strange toons will ask to be invited to defiants
[10:22] Knight236: lol
[10:22] Jimony: Okay, so planting of SAM batteries on galway shire site is accepted!
[10:22] Heatherstone: lols
[10:23] Jimony: Next topic Knight and Faithkeepers
[10:23] Jimony: Knight is and has been quite sick for a while, this is why he may be abit quite and slow. If you need anything though the Faithkeepers will be happy to help you.
[10:23] Heatherstone: i'm usually the one around recruiting so I'll be ready
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[10:23] Dfnt: "Sevenbone" (Level 49/0 - None, Male Solitus Engineer, Squad Commander of The Defiant) logged on.
[10:24] Knight236: well in order to make this work newer players need to build on site 1---soon older players will have to pull towers from site 2 for a site 3-----so teach peeps how to plant
[10:24] Jimony: that's basically all there is to say to it, and don't be too scared if he says "knight down", he always gets back
[10:24] Knight236:
[10:24] Knight236: wb 7
[10:24] Heatherstone: hello Seven
[10:24] Ghanimapl: site 3?
[10:24] Jimony: yes, knight has been planning a ql 100ish site for ages
[10:24] Zombieranger: hey i notice neutrals could often still use some help defending their higher level sites, but don't count on us ever getting one
[10:25] Zombieranger: hey we used to have a level 75 site :S
[10:25] Ghanimapl: heh kk, ql100 site, nice, im in
[10:25] Sevenbone: hi yas had computer repaired works fine now woot
[10:25] Jimony: but atm it's not such a good time to take a TL3 or 4 site becouse of the activity and lack of defenders
[10:25] Knight236: i think 150 is better-------we got more toons in that range
[10:25] Jimony: lol
[10:25] Forver: !battle
[10:25] Zombieranger: hey for anything under level 220 you really have to make dedicated characters i think
[10:26] Jimony: well if anyone can make a twink in level ranges of 30, 45, 75 or 100 it's much appriciated
[10:26] Jimony: and we shal see about a ql 100 site on a later time.
[10:26] Zombieranger: you can always go to defend other's sites safely
[10:27] Jimony: so, all clear on towers then?
[10:27] Zombieranger: okay so next topic?
[10:27] Jimony: Topic: Bi-Weekly Meetings
[10:27] Jimony: As proposed at last meeting 2 weeks ago. I think it would be nice to have meetings twice a month instead of every week. After last weeks meeting was canceled I don't think we missed out all that much, so it must be possible.
[10:27] Zombieranger: oh you mean like bi-monthly?
[10:28] Zombieranger: omg because i thought meant 2 times a week i was like.. i don't know..
[10:28] Jimony: lol, my bad, mis-interpretated the bi- part :F
[10:28] Forver: Yes last week Knight and I were the only ones here
[10:28] Jimony: anyways yes, twice a month, or once every 2 weeks however you want to call it
[10:28] Zombieranger: yes because we also have a forum now to post and address stuff that comes up during the week
[10:29] Jimony: i think when we do it every week it becomes abit of beating a dead horse
[10:29] Zombieranger: often if it occurs on a monday is not appropriate to wait until the next meeting
[10:29] Knight236: if we go to 2 week meets-----------------i expect all to show up
[10:29] Zombieranger: yeah, meetings to me should be part social gathering and to address really important, ongoing topics
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[10:29] Jimony: well it's been 2 weeks now and we got a pretty nice turnup
[10:30] Enphraam: would there be a better time to get more ppl to show up?
[10:30] Knight236: someone get pics
[10:30] Jimony: not sure about that...
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[10:30] Jimony: for me either 2 hours later or earlier
[10:30] Enphraam: maybe post a poll on the forum ask what time would be better for ppl
[10:31] Jimony: good idea
[10:31] Enphraam: give them a time range
[10:31] Jimony: keep it on sundays though?
[10:31] Zombieranger: yes i think weekends probably best
[10:31] Knight236: well--the euro shift , sadly is weaker than the usa shift
[10:31] Enphraam: yes sundays only
[10:31] Jimony: okay
[10:31] Dfnt: [Guest] Yunaizumiki: us euro's have good weather lately =\
[10:31] Knight236: but euro shift also works dam hard
[10:31] Zombieranger: they all outside playing :I
[10:32] Enphraam: hey i was here till 5 am this mornining
[10:32] Jimony: don't forget to sleep!
[10:32] Enphraam: i got 5 hrs
[10:32] Jimony: okay, so do we make it bi-montly or every week?
[10:32] Dfnt: [Guest] Yunaizumiki: enphraam want to secretly give me pnh without anyone noticing?
[10:32] Dfnt: [Guest] Yunaizumiki: thanks zomb
[10:33] Dfnt: [Guest] Yunaizumiki: thanks alot
[10:33] Jimony: we'll keep it on sundays and poll for the meeting times
[10:33] Knight236: sounds fine to me-might get to sleep in
[10:33] Enphraam: lol
[10:33] Knight236: TOPIC "ORG BOT"---OK , WE REALLY NEED YALL TO KEEP A PEN AN PAPER BY YOUR COMPUTER AND LIST FLAWS U NOTICE IN BOT.ZOMBIE WORKS HIS ASS OFF MAKING UPDATES ,BUT HE HAS TO KNOW WHERE THE FLAWS ARE---THIS HELPS ALL OF US
[10:33] Jimony: no cons?
[10:34] Jimony: knight, shush
[10:34] Knight236: sorry leil
[10:34] Jimony: we were talking
[10:34] Jimony: even tho it's a horrible silence... i take it nobody objects we'll accept it
[10:35] Zombieranger: okay well some bad news, the program i use to splice in tables is rejecting the old quotes database
[10:35] Jimony: so no more quotes...
[10:35] Jimony: mkay
[10:35] Zombieranger: i haven't worked on the towers module for some time now
[10:35] Knight236: not sure alot of players realize , at org meets we r all wquals
[10:35] Knight236: equals
[10:35] Zombieranger: !adminlist
[10:35] Dfntscan: [link]Adminlist[/link]
[10:35] Dfnt: [link]Adminlist[/link]
[10:35] Zombieranger: i did redesign the adminlist :F
[10:36] Knight236:
[10:36] Jimony: oki
[10:36] Zombieranger: anyways.. that's all i have to say about the bot except that.. it does appear the org roster is back online
[10:36] Jimony: yay for that
[10:36] Heatherstone: thank you Z
[10:36] Jimony: so far bot news, anything else before we go to next topic?
[10:36] Zombieranger: but it seems to update perhaps less now, and AO did ban some addresses for hounding the xml server for info
[10:36] Knight236:
[10:37] Jimony: I think that has to do with some players trying to break down the AO servers
[10:37] Zombieranger: ah
[10:37] Jimony: means made a comment about that
[10:37] Jimony: they almost took down RK3 :S
[10:37] Jimony: anyways, next topic!
[10:37] Jimony: Topic: Ranks
[10:38] Jimony: Also proposed 2 weeks ago, will we re-work ranks by promoting/demoting member by member? Or will we reset all ranks to applicant by a goverment change and go from there?
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[10:38] Zombieranger: omg yes this is the most important thing for this meeting!
[10:38] Jimony: When we get an AI city, I'd say a reset of all ranks would be required, to prevent things like an old long-lost general that comes back to the game and decides to delete our city buildings...
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[10:38] Enphraam: sounds like a good idea
[10:39] Zombieranger: this should be done as soon as possible really so in some time if have to kick inactive players it can help us determine easier who might be inactive
[10:39] Knight236: >>looks at prez<<<
[10:39] Forver: True
[10:39] Zombieranger: but the city thing is very important, less so because if someone accidentally or maliciously destroys the city we can get another
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[10:39] Zombieranger: but still would be huge expense
[10:40] Jimony: exactly
[10:40] Zombieranger: what would happen is the new highest rank for most members would be squad leader
[10:40] Jimony: and our city benefits will be down for a while, becouse someone did this
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[10:40] Zombieranger: this is how it works though in most any org with a city surely
[10:40] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: generals cant delete city buildings
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[10:40] Zombieranger: oh hey really?
[10:41] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: only prez can build and destroy
[10:41] Forver: Thank you Urb.
[10:41] Jimony: well any SC+ can royally nerf the CC tho
[10:41] Enphraam: only prez can build?
[10:41] Zombieranger: ah okay i read differently on that website >:S
[10:41] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: squad commander or higher is needed to start raid
[10:41] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: general can destroy buildings too
[10:41] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: i almost did it one time
[10:41] Jimony: raiding takes some responciblity...
[10:41] Jimony: yeah i belive generals can destroy too
[10:42] Zombieranger: yeah is it possible for aliens to destroy the city?
[10:42] Enphraam: no
[10:42] Jimony: atleast EO has some countermeasures incase this happens, wouldn't think they did that for nothing :S
[10:42] Zombieranger: sorry if that sounds stupid :S
[10:42] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: aliens cant destroy
[10:42] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: yeah i almsot had to pay a grip of creds to buy a new hq
[10:42] Jimony: aliens can only kill the CC, which will take down city benefits
[10:42] Jimony: but that can be recharged
[10:42] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: if your city has benefits
[10:43] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: but city benefits will be changed too
[10:43] Jimony: buuuut, we were talking about ranks, no tcities
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[10:43] Zombieranger: ah okay
[10:43] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: benefits wont go down anymore
[10:43] Jimony: oh right i read about that
[10:43] Jimony: well anyways.. ranks!
[10:43] Zombieranger: okay i think we ought reset them right now :S
[10:43] Jimony: we do it? i think best is to do it right now too
[10:43] Ghanimapl: lets go back to ranks: city = cutting out ranks, kk, im ok with that, someone have other idea?
[10:43] Knight236: whos typing?
[10:43] Zombieranger: is best to do during the meeting and not wait for some time during the week
[10:43] Knight236: lol
[10:44] Jimony: as we now have some faithkeepers online who can imidiately be promoted to general
[10:44] Jimony: otherwise we might nerf the org for a while
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[10:44] Knight236: eeek boss?
[10:45] Zombieranger: as is the squad leaders have much the same powers as generals
[10:45] Forver: Yes, that has merit
[10:45] Zombieranger: they can recruit, and in future be able to have org raids
[10:45] Jimony: do it! >
[10:45] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: *sc
[10:46] Heatherstone: I would not like being demoted to app as I have had good success lately recruiting med to high lvl players
[10:46] Zombieranger: oh hehe you're right :S
[10:46] Forver: OK, change to a Monarchy and declare myself KING???
[10:46] Forver: LOLO
[10:46] Jimony: well it's not realy a demotion, you will be reinstated as squadcomander afterwards so you can then recruit again
[10:46] Jimony: yes forver, and then switch back to current
[10:47] Heatherstone: all hail Forver
[10:47] Jimony: just don't cahnge it to anarchy :F
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[10:48] Jimony: zombie, after meeting you'll have to promote the bot too
[10:48] Zombieranger: wah
[10:49] Knight236: my only thought is leil and zombie will be writing alot of letters
[10:49] Jimony: lol
[10:49] Heatherstone: rofl
[10:50] Jimony: There we go
[10:51] Zombieranger: omg what did we just do
[10:51] Knight236: i have danced this dance--if this is something yall feal is needed then go for it------------i have rest org 4 times-----------pain in ass
[10:51] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: if you reset org from .. remember to promot bot toons to sc
[10:51] Jimony: yup
[10:51] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: *form
[10:52] Jimony: So I said, but zombie will have general rank so he can do that
[10:52] Zombieranger: not all players that had general status before will be generals now
[10:52] Jimony: Now let's finish meeting
[10:52] Jimony: I think it would be nice if we could do promotions in meeting
[10:52] Knight236: ty sir
[10:52] Zombieranger: also can check a player's history with the bot to see what ranking that had before
[10:52] Jimony: !whois dfnt
[10:52] Dfnt: "Dfnt" (Level 2/0 - None, Female Nano Bureaucrat, Neutral, Squad Commander of The Defiant) ¤ [link]click for more options[/link]
[10:52] Jimony: SC
[10:53] Knight236: all the banks will need restting as well
[10:53] Jimony: banks are of later worry
[10:53] Knight236: generals can do that tho
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[10:53] Jimony: so, let's do promotion of members on next meeting in 2 weeks, on a public event
[10:53] Jimony: next topic!
[10:53] Jimony: Topic: Org City
[10:53] Jimony: also a big one
[10:54] Jimony: In next patch comming soon there will be instanced cities! Yay! This means no more outrageous costs for a small land plot. It also means no market building (player shops). Some pro's and con's we have to concider:
[10:54] Jimony: Pro's: A city is cool to have, we can do AI raids if we find enough ppl, we will be able to triger orbital attacks, we will have city benefits for those with AI.
[10:54] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: nah .. city prices wont drop that much ... i dont believe to that
[10:54] Jimony: instanced cities won't cost that much urb
[10:54] Enphraam: i would really like to see a regular city, player shops are the #2 thing on my list
[10:54] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: no shops tho
[10:55] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: was talking about non instanced cities
[10:55] Jimony: yeah, a regular city is nice, but i think this is a good start if we want a city
[10:55] Jimony: aye, those won't drop much
[10:55] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: ppl are greedy ... they want as much back as they paid for 1
[10:55] Jimony: so.. pro's are
[10:56] Jimony: Pro's: A city is cool to have, we can do AI raids if we find enough ppl, we will be able to triger orbital attacks, we will have city benefits for those with AI.
[10:56] Enphraam: there will be plots available because of nonpayment
[10:56] Jimony: Con's: A city costs quite some creds in upkeep, the city buildings will be costly, fr00bs won't have alot of benefits from it.
[10:56] Zombieranger: orbital strikes is cool!
[10:56] Jimony: orbitals are indeed nice in tower defence
[10:56] Zombieranger: i haven't seen one of those in quite awhile
[10:56] Jimony: also the org will be more attractive to AI players even if the city is istanced
[10:56] Enphraam: org tax on player shops will help support the city
[10:56] Knight236: ok small thought----------hmm only prez can acess the cash---------and alot of times he is not on------should we dump org banks funds into mine or a faithkeerpers account
[10:57] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: instanced dont have shops
[10:57] Zombieranger: no knight the org bank pays for the city
[10:57] Killemalll: next patchi believe the org bank will pay for city
[10:57] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: yes
[10:57] Ghanimapl: we wont have shops to tax them
[10:57] Jimony: when time comes forver will claim a city, and org bank will pay it
[10:57] Jimony: the price is what bothers me most
[10:57] Zombieranger: well we have lots money in org bank right now
[10:57] Enphraam: ok, so ourinput is not needed
[10:57] Jimony: we won't have steady income, but we will have steady expense
[10:57] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: if you want shop, you can get 1 from our city
[10:58] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: i think there is still free shops
[10:58] Zombieranger: thanks urban and spirit walkers
[10:58] Zombieranger: i think we could try aa city at least
[10:58] Heatherstone: ty Urb
[10:58] Zombieranger: what else we going to do with the money in org bank?
[10:58] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: and tax is 1% ... thats the smallest possible
[10:59] Jimony: i think we'll have to see how expensive a few basic buildings will be, and what the upkeep of these small cities will be then
[10:59] Knight236: well i guess my point was------what if-----a city pops open tommorow----we cant acess org cash unless prez is on
[10:59] Jimony: We don't need to acces org cash knight
[10:59] Zombieranger: oh well, i think he might mean a non-instanced city
[10:59] Zombieranger: i don't see that happening so much
[10:59] Knight236: will go stand in a corer
[11:00] Knight236: coner
[11:00] [Buddy] Fixinmylazor logged on
[11:00] Dfnt: "Fixinmylazor" (Level 44/2 - Amateur, Male Opifex Fixer, Applicant of The Defiant) logged on.
[11:00] Jimony: aye, but still, you can pay a small city by yourself most of the time :F
[11:00] Jimony: an empty plot doesn't take much upkeep
[11:00] Jimony: then org will re-imburse creds
[11:00] Knight236: make it happen faithkeepers
[11:00] Zombieranger: i think these cities won't be super expensive
[11:00] Dfnt: Fixinmylazor logged off
[11:00] Jimony: no, i think instanced cities will be able to pay from org bank funds as they are now for quite a while
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[11:01] Jimony: but whitout a market building (or even with, we don't have that much AI players anyhows) we'll have to have some donations for the city on some time
[11:01] Jimony: So, are we willing to try this?
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[11:02] Dfnt: "Fixinmylazor" (Level 44/2 - Amateur, Male Opifex Fixer, Applicant of The Defiant) logged on.
[11:02] Zombieranger: okay, i don't think it can hurt we have 1b credits in bank
[11:02] Jimony: *nods*
[11:02] Dfnt: Fixinmylazor logged off
[11:02] Jimony: we can always drop it if it turns out to drain creds too fast
[11:02] Zombieranger: we can at least try and see if people are interested in it
[11:02] Jimony: i'll check my mule, i must have some basic buliding structures left
[11:02] Zombieranger: yeah the way cities are built goes completely over my head
[11:02] Heatherstone: I vote yes
[11:03] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: i think small city upkeep is something like 20m / month
[11:03] Ghanimapl: kk lets try it out
[11:03] Knight236: i knoW I GOT A PACK
[11:03] Knight236: was a gift
[11:03] Jimony: yes knight, that pack you have is on my mule
[11:03] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: lol
[11:03] Zombieranger: hey what does the quality level of buildings matter?
[11:03] Enphraam: so are we going to look for a regular of instanced?
[11:03] Jimony: it matters for the advantages you get i think :F
[11:03] Jimony: we're going for instanced for now
[11:03] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: amout of buffs
[11:03] Zombieranger: ah
[11:04] Zombieranger: so we want a level 900 city
[11:04] Jimony: ofcourse if anyone finds a landplot feel free to grab it
, but i don't think we'll see that happen soon
[11:04] Jimony: i got some ql 200-280 structures
[11:04] Jimony: should be plenty to start with
[11:04] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: Run Speed at level 220 99 (90 at lvl 200) Psychic at level 220 9 (9 at lvl 200) Sense at level 220 9 (9 at lvl 200) Intelligence at level 220 9 (9 at lvl 200) Stamina at level 220 9 (9 at lvl 200) Agility at level 220 9 (9 at lvl 200) Strength at level 220 9 (9 at lvl 200)
[11:04] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: that what ql300 hq gives
[11:04] Zombieranger: ooh :I
[11:04] Jimony: we can get a HQ, radar and cloak
[11:05] Jimony: and possibly a grid house
[11:05] Enphraam: cities that are behind in payment will be destyoed when the new update comes out, i think there will be more than 1 plot available
[11:05] Jimony: i'll look into this and see if i can get some constructed
[11:05] Enphraam: grid house also
[11:06] Jimony: aye, but i don't htink we'll be there first... you try to cover all the, what, 100 cities on RK with defiant members who ahve AI?
[11:06] Zogon: so might be good idea to watch citys of guilds u not see on much?
[11:06] Zombieranger: yeah we just aren't that dedicated to camp a city :F
[11:06] Enphraam: the 2 cities west of newland, there is never anyone there
[11:06] Jimony: it's a nice idea, but i think an instanced one is more realistic :F
[11:07] Zombieranger: there's bunches of cities in that coast of peace and that other place
[11:07] Zombieranger: yeah i think so too
[11:07] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: coast of peace is buggy -.-
[11:07] Jimony: either way like i said, feel free to camp for a city if you wish, i'll see if i can get some buildings up
[11:08] Jimony: then if anyone has a city we can plant there asap, and if not we'll jsut take the instanced
[11:08] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: all u need is a hq
[11:08] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: if u guys find a city i will buy you a hq
[11:08] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: and u can pay me back as u can
[11:08] Jimony: =D
[11:08] Heatherstone:
[11:08] Jimony: okay, we'll see
[11:08] Jimony: OMG don't do that urban it's scary
[11:08] Knight236: should the name be happyballs?
[11:08] Dfnt: [Guest] Angryballs: lol
[11:09] Jimony: i don't like redeemed mobs on my curb
[11:09] Jimony: okay, so we're going for a city!
[11:09] Jimony: Open floor!
[11:09] Zombieranger:
[11:09] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: SB has coolest effect
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[11:10] Dfnt: "Fixinmylazor" (Level 44/2 - Amateur, Male Opifex Fixer, Applicant of The Defiant) logged on.
[11:10] Knight236: prez?
[11:10] Jimony: I'd like to mention, also on behaf of knight, to please tell us before you suddenly leave the org
[11:10] Dfnt: Fixinmylazor logged off
[11:10] Jimony: so we know why you do this
[11:10] Dfnt: Meldichi (Lvl 33/Engineer/Elite Operations/Neutral) attacked the Neutral organization Peoples Front of Newland´s tower in Stret West Bank(1682x3141, HUGEMAP #1) [link]Advanced Info[/link]
[11:11] Jimony: also don't forget we have a website, please make an account there to keep posted on latest news
[11:11] Knight236: WE DO ASK THAT YOU GIVE US NOTICE THO IF YOU CHOOSE TO LEAVE.REMEMBER THE GRASS IS NOT ALWAYS GREENER ON OTHER SIDE OF FENCE THO
[11:12] Jimony: anything else someobdy wishes to toss on here before we close?
[11:12] Zombieranger: hey well i was saying before if want to make some characters to defend sites..
[11:12] Knight236: hmm -----aperently the trainer and recutior of elite has not been doing her job
[11:13] Zombieranger: level 39 could be a good choice because in between the levels of both sites
[11:13] Zogon: will some one walk me through placing a tower today
[11:13] Jimony: shush knight, i trained you for years and you still attack neuts
[11:13] Zombieranger: and if free player can more readily defend against powerful level 30 melee professions
[11:13] Jimony: shit happens
[11:13] Knight236: join the army!
[11:13] Zombieranger: if you have AI try out the APT's if things are going badly
[11:13] Dfnt: [Guest] Urbaneng: [link]Implant Disassembly Clinic[/link] / [link]Implant Disassembly Clinic[/link] any1 ?
[11:13] Knight236: !army
[11:13] Dfnt: [link]Defiant Clone Army Info[/link]
[11:13] Zombieranger: sort lost eden not AI
[11:14] Jimony: can i has the lvl 51 one?
[11:14] Zombieranger: okay no more clones for now okay
[11:14] Enphraam: apts?
[11:14] Zombieranger: anti-personnel turrets
[11:14] Zombieranger: i don't have lost eden, but in the next patch they are getting beefed up!
[11:14] Jimony: allright, if nothing else i'll close up now
[11:14] Zombieranger: but they're already pretty deadly
[11:14] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: if you make toons in the middle; for one, they will be great, but the other not so much
[11:15] Knight236: we will loose site 1---if defiant does not plant
[11:15] Knight236: bout that simple
[11:15] Forver: I have packs of city components
[11:15] Jimony: Feel free to converse further, but the meeting is officialy closed!
[11:15] Zombieranger: well that is true but the range for site 2 is like 45 tops and it's pretty close to 39
[11:15] Jimony: cya after dinner
[11:15] Zombieranger: c-ya
[11:15] Jimony: !afk food
[11:15] Dfnt: Jimony is now AFK
[11:15] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: seeya
[11:15] Zogon: well if some one show me i do some towers
[11:15] Forver: And I had packs of towers too
[11:15] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: what levels are the sites?
[11:16] Zombieranger: 20-30 and 30-45
[11:16] Enphraam: !afk
[11:16] Dfnt: Enphraam is now AFK
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[11:16] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: i think
[11:16] Zombieranger: hey something others orgs do is they will buff before the attacks occur
[11:16] Dfnt: [Guest] Baylorr: Watch that new omni org that are hitting neutrals, they have some low ranges and seem yo have some nasty exploit making thier mechs very bad
[11:16] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: that you should tryu planting at very big level ranges
[11:16] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: 30-45, if all are in the 49 range, 49s could easily destroy the film
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[11:17] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: So if you plant the CT at 30, while the rest at 45, or something like that
[11:17] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: it means the attackers need to be a variety of levels
[11:17] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: *Shrug*
[11:17] Zombieranger: oh yeah that is good idea too, EQ and others does that and it's quite annoying :S
[11:17] Knight236: well------if there is no other biz-----the 107th sunday meeting of the defiant is adjourned
[11:18] Knight236: be excelant to each other
[11:18] Dfnt: [Guest] Chromosomez: heh i remember tl2 towers scaling allt he way to 220
[11:18] Dfnt: [Guest] Krummp: there's one tower field that's somethign like 1-100 hehehe
[11:18] Zombieranger: thanks all for showing up and also again thanks to extrama and free spirits, the noid, kalandros and stormman along with leileena for help today with towers
